VideoHeaven or Hell? (Part 10 of 10).Jan 22, '08 7:10 AM
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Video on life after death experiences.



happy54 wrote on Jan 22, edited on Jan 22
Very good. It reminded me to be more joyful that I saw Jesus and was not in darkness when it happened to me, but it also reminded me to make sure I have forgiveness for those who tried to harm me and gave me the heart attack. I think everyone should see these. I will advertise it to my friends if you don't mind.
piscesdave2003 wrote on Jan 24
I have read many Christian articles on near death experiences and some of the main points that I learned in relation to it are these
- hell , ( lake of fire ) , does not exist at the present but will be created around the time of the great white thrown judgment so how can anyone experience what hell is like if doesn't yet exist and they have not been judged
-God through Christ is creating a new heaven to be brought to Earth after all things have been accomplished through Christ Jesus so to say they experienced heaven isn't correct
-the bible tells us that the dead do not know what the living are doing and thus are not conscious of whats going on after death until they are reserected
-near death experiences may be chemical reactions in the brain along with a near death state in which the person perceives the outside world in a trance like state
these along with other points leads me to believe that a near death experience is not what the program makes it out to be but is something that needs more study , I would like to suggest a good Christian book on the subject of death .It is called WHEN DEATH COMES by Keith Harris
Thanks for the opportunity to watch the program and comment
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zce4z wrote on Jan 25, edited on Jan 25
Hell does exist, bible is clear on that fact in many, many places. There is fire there, bible in many places is also clear on that Matthew 5:22. That there will be a lake of fire (made or created) at the end of all things or around the time of the great white throne judgment is not found in the bible, The devil being thrown into a lake of fire is. There is a heaven, bible is very simply clear on that. Most everything you mention is more speculating doctrine than the plainness in the word of God on the facts of heaven and hell existing. Some simple stuff in the bible I can use to support what I am saying is the story of the rich man and Lazarus. Rich man (in hell)... Genesis 1:1, there is clearly a heaven. (Although there will be a new heaven made.) Although it would be completely against the word to use a life after death experience to create some voodoo doctrines, I have not found anything in these videos, not even close to go against what the word of God says. But I appreciate your honesty but I have to honesty say, I am questioning the statements you have made here. Take care friend. Talk to ya later..
piscesdave2003 wrote on Jan 25
from what I have read by Christian authors , hell does not yet exist because we have not yet been judged and for someone to see hell with people suffering there can't be possible,
the story of Lazarus was a parable that Christ used to teach us a truth He wanted to make .I tend to treat things I see on T V programs as being presented in a way to make them likable or agreeable to the population as a whole .Personally for me to believe that someone in a near death experience may see views of heaven or hell is comparable to me believing that one can talk to the dead both of which I can't .If near death experiences were of importance to a Christian's life then surely there would be mention of such in the Bible where there were people res erected by Christ but none told of experiencing heaven or hell.
That being said I do respect your view point and at the time God has chosen for us we we all one day have this and many other questions answered in the next instant after our own deaths .Until that time may of faith and love in Christ Jesus grow stronger .
piscesdave2003 wrote on Jan 26
as an addition may I suggest these internet sites where near death experiences are discussed .The first is rather interesting with the section about people who are not Christian and have near death experiences and what they experience .

http://www.christiananswers.net/q-eden/rfsm-nde.html

http://www.iclnet.org/pub/resources/text/cri/cri-jrnl/web/crj0098a.html......please scroll down to the paragraph entitled A TURN TO THE BIBLE half way down

http://www.observations.net/questions/question3.html this site is very interesting as it discusses some disturbing aspects of N D E 's

there are also other books I have read that lead me to consider N D E 's as a something other than what they seem to be .
zce4z wrote on Jan 30
thanks
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